For those of you who will
find this page to be long, tiring, and hard to get through, Keep in
mind that I have cropped all the extranious words that do not get to
the heart of the issue. I do sum this page up with a graphic at
the bottom of the page.
Treasury Regulation
Sec. 1.6041A-1
(d)(3) Foreign transactions--(i) In general. No return shall be
required
under section 6041A with respect to payments described in this
paragraph (d)(3).
...
However, such payments may
be reportable under Sec. 1.1461-1(b)
and (c).
For purposes of this
paragraph (d)(3)(i)(A), the provisions in Sec. 1.6049-5(c)
(regarding
rules applicable to documentation of foreign status and definition of
U.S. payor and non-U.S. payor) shall apply. The provisions of Sec.
1.1441-1 shall
apply by substituting the term payor for the term
withholding agent. |
"However, such payments may be reportable
under Sec. 1.1461-1(b)
and (c)."
Let us look to regulation 1.1461-1(b)
and (c)
to see if it makes my domestic compensation
for labor a reportable payment.
Treasury Regulation
1.1461-1
(b)
Income tax return--(1) General rule. A withholding
agent shall make an
income tax return on Form 1042 (or such other form as the IRS may
prescribe) for income paid during the preceding calendar year that the
withholding agent is required to report on an information return on
Form 1042-S (or such other form as the IRS may prescribe) under
paragraph (c)(1) of this section.
(c)
Information returns--
(1) Filing requirement--(i) In general. A withholding agent (other than an
individual who is not acting in the course of a trade or business with
respect to a payment) must make an
information return on Form 1042-S (or such other form as the IRS
may prescribe) to report the amounts
subject to reporting, as defined in paragraph (c)(2) of this
section, that were paid during the preceding calendar year.
(c)(2) Amounts subject to reporting--(i)
In general. Subject to the exceptions described in paragraph (c)(2)(ii)
of this section, amounts subject to
reporting on Form 1042-S are
amounts paid to a foreign payee (including persons presumed to
be foreign) that are amounts subject
to withholding as defined in Sec. 1.1441-2(a).
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I am not a nonresident alien nor am I a foreign person, thus
the person paying me is NOT a
withholding agent, thus none
of the rules
for withholding agents apply to what I am paid. Amounts subject to reporting
are amounts subject
to withholding paid to a foreign
payee.
Nothing in Treasury
Regulation
1.1461-1 makes my compensation
for labor into a reportable
payment.
Treasury Regulation
Sec. 1.6041A-1(d)(3)(i)(A)
However, such payments may
be reportable under Sec. 1.1461-1(b)
and (c). For purposes of this
paragraph (d)(3)(i)(A), the provisions in Sec. 1.6049-5(c) (regarding
rules applicable to documentation of foreign status and definition of
U.S. payor and non-U.S. payor) shall apply. The provisions of
Sec. 1.1441-1 shall
apply by substituting the term payor for the term
withholding agent. |
A reportable payment is something paid
by a "payor". Regulation
1.6049-5(c) definitions of U.S.
payor and non-U.S. payor
shall apply for this paragraph shown above.
Treasury Regulation
1.6049-5
(c) Applicable rules--
(5) U.S. payor, U.S.
middleman, non-U.S. payor, and
non-U.S. middleman. The terms payor
and
middleman have the meanings ascribed
to them under
Sec. 1.6049-4(a).
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Those meanings are:
Treasury Regulation
Sec. 1.6049-4 Return of information as to interest paid and
original issue discount includible in gross income after December 31,
1982.
(a) Requirement of reporting--(1) In general. Except as provided in
paragraph (c) of this section, an
information return shall be made by a payor, as defined in paragraph
(a)(2) of this section ...
(2) Payor. For payments made
after December 31, 2002, a payor is a
person described in paragraph (a)(2)(i) or (ii) of this section.
(i) Every person who makes a payment
of the type and of the amount subject to reporting under this section
(or under an applicable section under this chapter) to any other person
during a calendar year.
(ii) Every person who collects on
behalf of another person payments of the type and of the amount subject
to reporting under this section (or under an applicable section
under this chapter), or who otherwise acts as a middleman (as defined
in paragraph (f)(4) of this section) with respect to such payment.
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And the type and amount
subject to reporting under this section is:
Treasury Regulation
1.6049-4(b) Information to be reported--
(1) Interest payments.
(2) Original issue discount.
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This is a dead end.
Nothing here makes my compensation
for labor into a reportable
payment, thus there is no need to furnish an identifying number,
nor is there a requirement for backup
withholding.
One last loose end to tie up:
Treasury Regulation
Sec.
1.6049-4
(2) [A] payor is ...
(i) Every person who makes a payment
of the type and of the amount subject to reporting under this section (or under an applicable section under this
chapter) to any other person during a calendar year.
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"Under an applicable section under this
chapter" means any of the other sections, of which we have
already looked at all the sections that could possibly apply to make compensation for labor into a reportable payment. None do.
Treasury Regulation
Sec. 1.6041A-1(d)(3)(i)(A)
However, such payments may
be reportable under Sec. 1.1461-1(b)
and (c). For purposes of this
paragraph (d)(3)(i)(A), the provisions in Sec. 1.6049-5(c) (regarding
rules applicable to documentation of foreign status and definition of
U.S. payor and non-U.S. payor) shall
apply. The provisions of
Sec. 1.1441-1 shall
apply by substituting the term payor for the term
withholding agent. |
The provisions cross
referenced do not apply to my compensation for labor either.
Treasury Regulation
Sec. 1.6049-5 Interest
and original issue discount subject
to reporting after December 31, 1982.
(c) Applicable rules--
(1) Documentary
evidence for offshore accounts.
A
payor may rely on documentary evidence described in this paragraph
(c)(1) instead of
a beneficial owner withholding certificate described
in Sec. 1.1441-1(e)(2)(i) in
the case of a payment made outside the
United States to an offshore account or, in the case of broker proceeds
described in Sec. 1.6045-1(c)(2), in the case of a sale effected
outside the United States (as defined in Sec.
1.6045-1(g)(3)(iii)(A)).
A payor may rely on
documentary evidence if the
payor has established procedures to obtain, review, and maintain
documentary evidence
sufficient to establish the identity of the payee
and the status of that person as a foreign person (including, but not
limited to, documentary evidence described in Sec. 1.1441-6(c)
(3) or
(4)); and the payor obtains, reviews, and maintains such documentary
evidence in accordance with those procedures.
(c) Applicable rules--
(2) Other applicable rules.
The provisions of
Sec. 1.1441-1(e)(4)(i)
through (ix) (regarding who
may sign a certificate, validity period of certificates, retention of
certificates, etc.) shall apply
(by substituting the term payor for
the
term withholding agent and disregarding the fact that the
provisions
under Sec. 1.1441-1(e)(4) only apply to amounts subject to
withholding
under chapter 3 of the Code) to
withholding certificates and
documentary evidence furnished for purposes of this section. See Sec. 1.1441-1(b)(2)(vii)
for provisions dealing reliable association of a
payment with documentation. |
Interest and original issue discount,
offshore accounts, foreign
persons. None of this applies to me. None of this
applies to make my compensation for
labor into a reportable payment.
Regulation 1.6049-5(c)(2)
cross references to regulation 1.1441-1,
just as regulation 1.6041A-1(d)(3)(i)(A) does above. We will
examine regulation 1.1441-1 in
just a moment.
One last point to be made
regarding IRC section 6049, of which the regulations thereunder are
cross referenced:
TITLE 26 - INTERNAL
REVENUE CODE
Subtitle F - Procedure and Administration
CHAPTER 61 - INFORMATION AND RETURNS
Subchapter A - Returns and Records
PART III - INFORMATION RETURNS
Subpart B - Information Concerning Transactions With Other Persons
Sec. 6049. Returns regarding payments
of interest
(a) Requirement of reporting
Every person -
(1) who makes payments of interest
(as defined in subsection
(b)) aggregating $10 or more to any other person during any calendar
year, or
(2) who receives payments of interest (as so defined) as a nominee and
who makes payments aggregating $10 or more during any calendar year to
any other person with respect to the interest so received,
shall make a return
according to the forms or regulations prescribed by
the Secretary, setting forth the aggregate amount of such
payments and
the name and address of the person to whom paid.
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Interest payments have
absolutely nothing to do with compensation
for labor.
As shown above in both 1.6049-5(c)
and 1.6041A-1(d):
Treasury Regulation
Sec. 1.6041A-1(d)(3)(i)(A)
However, such payments may
be reportable under Sec. 1.1461-1(b)
and (c).
For purposes of this
paragraph (d)(3)(i)(A), the provisions in Sec. 1.6049-5(c)
(regarding
rules applicable to documentation of foreign status and definition of
U.S. payor and non-U.S. payor) shall apply. The provisions of Sec. 1.1441-1 shall
apply by substituting the term payor for the term
withholding agent. |
"The provisions of Sec. 1.1441-1
shall apply by substituting the term payor
for the term withholding agent."
Treasury Regulation
1.1441-1(a)
(a) Purpose and scope.
This section, Secs. 1.1441-2 through 1.1441-9, and 1.1443-1 provide
rules for withholding under sections 1441, 1442, and 1443 when a
payment is made to a foreign person.
(b) General rules of withholding--
(1) Requirement to withhold on payments to foreign persons.
A withholding agent [payor]
must withhold 30-percent of any payment of an amount subject to
withholding made to a payee that is a foreign person unless it can
reliably associate the payment with documentation upon which it can
rely to treat the payment as made to a payee that is a U.S. person or
as made to a beneficial owner that is a foreign person entitled to a
reduced rate of withholding.
(d) Beneficial owner's or payee's claim of U.S. status--(1) In general.
Under paragraph (b)(1) of this section, a withholding agent [payor] is not required to withhold under
chapter 3 of the Code [withholding of tax on nonresident aliens
and foreign corporations] on payments to a U.S. payee, to a person presumed to be a U.S. payee
in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (b)(3) of this section,
or to a person that the withholding agent [payor] may treat as a U.S.
beneficial owner of the payment.
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There is a lot of reading involved in the study of Treasury Regulation
1.1441-1. This regulation has 31,615 words in it. It only
applies to
payor's and payors only pay reportable payments,
I had one heck of a time
figuring out how to show the truth in regard to IRC sectioin
6041A. This image is a recap that shows why I had such a hard
time getting my mind around the cross referenced regulations in
regulation 1.6041A-1.
A payor is the person that makes an
information return (on a reportable
payment). In order for compensation
for labor to be a reportable
payment, it needs to be paid by a payor. As can clearly be seen,
compensation for labor is
NOT a reportable payment under
IRC 6041A or any of the regulations cross referenced because the payors under all these sections do
NOT pay compensation for labor
and the cross referenced sections do not deal with compensation for labor.
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