Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: August 12, 2021, 09:27:27 AM »
Yes, and we can do the same now by electing our own law enforcers and hold also them responsible.
Every single politician would be guilty of treason because they have all broken their oath to the constitution.
This is where a possible communication glitch is happening.
Here's how I would phrase your statement because of how I view "law" and "law enforcers":
We can elect to hire our own security and protection services.
Because you and I have had discussion, I am assuming you are actually meaning "natural law enforcers". Else I read your law enforcers as law enforcement officers; Police; government goons. I know the money stealing government officers are not what you mean, yet the wording still seems pro government.
I also have an issue with the Constitution. Have you read Spooner's No Treason?
As a former United States Army enlisted soldier, My oath was to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It wasn't to protect all (U.S.) humans from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I parenthetical United States because it must be ALL humans from criminals governmental and non governmental. Nature's Law.
Dale Eastman No, you misunderstand.
My point is that the bill of rights are fundamental to the constitution because it [s ]ets examples of the individuals natural right that no other can though(?) without criminalizing themselves.
It was these rights you [swore] an oath to protect and as får as I know your oath does not have any expiration date.
Your oath in this matter are for life.
But you need to understand whats the issue is and what we are talking about when we speak of rights.
But you are right that we could use different words, but how do er then get the brainwashed to understand if we do not use their words so that they may understand.
You have woken up.
But there is many individuals who will never have a chance of understanding if you do not use their words.
➽ Dale Eastman No, you misunderstand.
It is my opinion that I'm not misunderstanding what you are trying to say. It is my error in that I have not presented my point(s) so that you understand me.
➽ It was these rights you [swore] an oath to protect and as får as I know your oath does not have any expiration date.
No expiration date?
It is ONLY my conscience and my morality that determines whether I uphold an oath or keep a promise to anybody.
If I promise to help somebody in need, That decision is mine and mine alone. If the person I've promised that I will help then sits back and does nothing to help themselves, deciding to break that promise (for cause or not) is still my choice. "Duty" is what one owes only to themselves. It is my duty to educate the deluded government worshiping masses about their enslavement; about their lack of ownership over themselves and their property.
The ideal of the Bill of Rights is nice but meaningless. They were included in the Constitution as a specific list of "This ye shall not touch." The mere men and women in government violate those rules with impunity.
Some people have the belief that the Bill of Rights is where their liberty and freedom come from. They are in serious error. Government agents and government sycophants promulgate this error, deliberately in my opinion.
Taking my cue from, and paraphrasing, the United States Declaration of Independence...
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created with an equal lack of ownership over any other humans; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and unalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness;
Thus, YOU DON'T OWN ME is the initial natural state of being. YDOM is a self-evident truth. You don't own me. You don't own my life, my liberty, or my property. Natural Law IS YDOM!
➽ But you need to understand whats the issue is and what we are talking about when we speak of rights.
What rights are you and I talking about? You don't own me. I don't own you. You have no right to tell me to do anything. Neither does any mere man or woman called "government." When somebody attempts to violate my life, my liberty, or my (justly acquired) property, It is my right to use whatever level of escalating defensive force and violence necessary to stop the criminal from continuing to attempt to violate my self, my property, or my liberty.
➽ how do [we] then get the brainwashed to understand if we do not use their words so that they may understand.
My the words I use are as precise as I can make them. And my choice of those words evolves when an ambiguity or other verbal loop-hole is brought to my attention. Government's alleged authority is not legitimate. A lawyer spun that, so now I say, Government's alleged authority is provably bogus. Building on that, I now say, Government is a criminal syndicate that extorts people for money and control.
The claim is unrefutable because it's true.
Even so, I've had the brainwashed attempt to argue the point. As a point of logic, it's my claim therefore the burden of proof is mine. Extortion is give us the money we demand or we will hurt you. To prove the point is a simple question, If you don't pay the extortionate demand for money, what happens? Don't pay real estate property taxes, men with guns will show up to evict you from your property because they've taken it.
I've also cited U.S. Federal tax law, the law making the demand and the law promising the hurt for not coughing up the money.
➽ But there is many individuals who will never have a chance of understanding if you do not use their words.
I've chosen to KISS my words. I've chosen to use unequivocal words so that my meaning is precise.
You Don't Own Me is very precise. If this is true for me, then this is true for you. If this is true for everyone, then no government human ever had any non-bogus ownership of anybody else.
Just about ANY action on the part of government, that is, Just about ANY action on the part of mere men and woman of government is a violation of rights and a violation of Natural law.
This is where the Statist's minds melt. And the "Yes But"... sheesh!
There is more to address regarding security and protection from those who would violate rights.