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Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: September 29, 2022, 12:18:30 PM »

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Quote from: 28 17:43

    ➽ its not "a" leader or "a" ruler, it's plural...

    You have just conflated "ruler" with "leader". It's a ruling class, not a leading class. As George Carlin pointed out, "It's a big club and you ain't in it." I will stipulate that you are correct. The ruling class is rulerS... plural.

    ➽ Some leaders are good and some leaders are bad,

    If alleged "leaders" have men with guns to make you obey, then they are NOT leaders. Stop abusing the word leader.

    ➽ Rules have to come from somewhere...

    ❶ Admit or deny:
    All humans are born with equal rights.

    ❷ Admit or deny:
    Then no human is born owning any other human.

Quote from: 29 11:07

    Equality as a legal or political principle does not depend upon a belief in empirical equality of any sort. Quite the contrary. If it were literally true that "all men are created equal," there would be no case for equal protection of the law, or perhaps even for laws at all. If every person had exactly the same intelligence, strength, aggressiveness, organizing ability, etc., there would be no need for the law to protect one from another, because one would never be in a position to successfully take advantage of the other. It is precisely the inequalities of people which makes the equal protection of the law so important-that there must be an overwhelming organized force ready to be thrown into the balance, so that a weak little old lady shall have as much right to live as the most stalwart young man or that frauds that deceive the unwary shall not be immune to retribution by officials who are more knowledgeable.

Again:

    ❶ Admit or deny:
    All humans are born with equal rights.
Posted by: Dale Eastman
« on: September 29, 2022, 10:57:24 AM »

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Quote from: 28 17:43
➽ its not "a" leader or "a" ruler, it's plural...

You have just conflated "ruler" with "leader". It's a ruling class, not a leading class. As George Carlin pointed out, "It's a big club and you ain't in it." I will stipulate that you are correct. The ruling class is rulerS... plural.

➽ Some leaders are good and some leaders are bad,

If alleged "leaders" have men with guns to make you obey, then they are NOT leaders. Stop abusing the word leader.

➽ Rules have to come from somewhere...

❶ Admit or deny:
All humans are born with equal rights.

❷ Admit or deny:
Then no human is born owning any other human.
Quote from: 29 11:07
Equality as a legal or political principle does not depend upon a belief in empirical equality of any sort. Quite the contrary. If it were literally true that "all men are created equal," there would be no case for equal protection of the law, or perhaps even for laws at all. If every person had exactly the same intelligence, strength, aggressiveness, organizing ability, etc., there would be no need for the law to protect one from another, because one would never be in a position to successfully take advantage of the other. It is precisely the inequalities of people which makes the equal protection of the law so important-that there must be an overwhelming organized force ready to be thrown into the balance, so that a weak little old lady shall have as much right to live as the most stalwart young man or that frauds that deceive the unwary shall not be immune to retribution by officials who are more knowledgeable.
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❶ Admit or deny:
All humans are born with equal rights.